Archive for September, 2011
So as Kate described in the previous post, there has been quite a “stirring” in Christchurch the last 2 months over several “prophecies” and dreams that have been circulating. It’s been a strange experience watching the hype build and participating in all of the discussion surrounding such bold and heavy “statements”. The threat of Tsunami has circulated to the point where you’d be hard-pressed to find ANYONE in the city who HASN’T heard about the “28th of September”.
I’ve waited until now to post anything online because I didn’t want to contribute to the hysteria – however I still wanted to make sure I got something up BEFORE the 28th just for good measure.
I thought many who follow our blog would find the following documents interesting as a “case study” – probably more interesting than listening to us talk about our personal take on the matter. So I’m going to post links to the various “prophecies”, dreams, rebuttals, and so-forth and let you wade through it as we did. (Most of you will read this after the 28th and will have the advantage of hindsight.)
First we have the original “prophetic word” – Third Christchurch Shaking
Next we were given a documented dream from another gentleman (whom I will not name here) – read below:
Several years ago I was given a dream in which I saw waves of the Holy Spirit coming out of Christchurch, and at the time I realized that the name Christchurch was significant as it had Christ’s name.
Early in this year I was given an inner knowledge that something big was going to happen on September 28th 2011. However upon sharing this I was told I was presumptuous to put a date on it.
In August 2011 when we had the big snow , I was not able to go to work and on the Tuesday of that week I had a dream given to me.
I saw myself first of all warning people, the first person I warned of the coming danger did not listen to me , then the second person listened and accepted the warning. I knew from this that my task is to warn people. The Lord said to me, ” Those who listen to this warning will be saved and those who do not listen will perish.”
Then in the dream I was standing on the North side of the Waimakariri River mouth and I saw a big hole open up in the sea by Kairaki Beach, it was one km wide. It was caused by an earthquake. Further out to sea,about six km out, I saw a pressure wave rising up from the water being displaced from the hole. The wave was huge and it eclipsed the horizon. Then the sand and shingle on the embankments from both sides of the river mouth began to fall into the hole, the trees also fell in sending up large sprays into the air.
Then the wave came rushing in on to the land destroying everything in its path, all of the beach settlements, Kairaki Beach, Pines Beach, Woodend Beach were wiped out, it flowed on up to the Woodend Camping Ground Lodge destroying it and continued up to the south outskirts of Tuahiwi.
It was very fast flowing water, angry water,and its speed was perhaps 180k. The town of Kaiapoi was covered by the wave. At this point I presumed that the bridges would be destroyed because of the speed and volume of water, although I did not see this. The water continued to flow through Belfast , taking out the Pub on the corner before the motorway. The water reached Northwood and flooded into the Northwood development of homes.
It continued on through Redwood, Burwood, with the trees just falling in its path. The noise of the trees falling was loud but the sound of the water was much worse.The water was flooding all the beach areas, Waimairi Beach, North Beach, New Brighton, South New Brighton and Sumner. From Sumner it traveled inland, but by now the speed and force of the water was slowing down. I saw it reach the Princess Margaret hospital. Some areas of ChCh were affected and others were missed.
God is a loving, caring, God who wants to save people so He is warning through this dream so people can be safe.
In addition to these, Ken Ring, affectionately known as “The Moon Man” here in NZ, has predicted an increase in seismic activity between the 23rd and 28th of September with the 28th being the date of “highest probability” due to a Earth-Sun-Mercury alignment (something to do with gravity funneling). You can read what he says HERE.
So, you have these 3 separate “sources” pointing to the 28th for likely seismic activity, but that’s not all.
Moving further into the realm of pseudo-science, you have the Comet Elenin trackers adding incoming celestial debris (a comet) to this already potent mix and claiming that it’s not just a “comet” but it’s actually “Planet X”. The comet/planet was meant to be part of the previously mentioned alignment but seems to have disintegrated within the last week, proving that it really was a comet, frustrating conspiracy theorists across the planet and relieving many others. (Google “Comet Elenin Earthquakes” if you have a few hours to kill)
Add to this various others around the city who have had random Tsunami dreams and physics saying they “see disaster ahead” and you’ve got a pretty powerful cocktail for fear and confusion.
Now, in the midst of all of this, you have those who are doing their best to help Christians (and others) make sense of these things. Below are 3 individuals who have written sensible rebuttals, specifically in regards to the initial “prophetic word”.
These first two are from two separate individuals but combined into one document that was sent around by a local pastor. You can read or download them HERE.
The third is a blog posted by a friend of ours who is living near the coast (meaning he has a very personal interest in understanding these things). You may enjoy reading a few other posts before and after this one as well – HERE.
And, just for good measure, here is an interesting (and a little condescending) video from a psychic who had apparently predicted the first two quakes.
And there you have it. Now you know what it’s been like in Christchurch the last couple of months. It’s amazing what the trauma of living through a deadly earthquake can do to people… Please pray not only for the healing of our city, but also for the healing of the hearts of the people in Christchurch.
We figured we should let you know that for the last few months almost everyone in Christchurch has been waiting for tomorrow (Sept 28) to pass by quietly. The reason being that there have been a few predictions/prophecies about an earthquake and subsequent tsunami hammering the northern shores of Christchurch. A various many people (non-Christians and Christians alike) have had dreams about such things as well. Some are choosing to believe, some are refuting it, most are uncertain. It’s been an “interesting” time to say the least.
Have a look at this bit from 3 NEWS (hopefully you can watch it outside of NZ) HERE.
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Two weeks ago we were having dinner with some friends who live by the beach. We got talking about all of the hype around these “predictions” and decided to spend part of the evening praying about it together. During prayer, it turned out that Noah and I received the same impression from the Lord. We basically had the same scripture and picture come to mind – something we’ve never had happen before.
He began by sharing that he felt the Lord lead him to the book of Job. I said, “Me too!”. Then he stated that the Lord specifically pointed out a particular verse in the last few chapters where God reminds Job of who He (God) is ( “were you there when I created this… and this..”), and I said, “Me too!”
Then Noah went on to say that he felt the Lord remind him of where He talks about creating the sea and says, “This far you may come and no farther; where you proud waves halt.?” and again, I was astonished and said, “Me too!!” Then he shared that he felt God say we should go down and speak that over the ocean in prayer. And again, I had the same thing, an image of us praying along the shore. We both felt the Lord was showing us that believers are meant to stand against this plan of destruction rather than sit back and wait for it to happen.
We all walked a block down to the beach, totally giddy that God just showed us that simultaneously. So we stood at the high tide line and prayed, speaking those words of the the ocean (feeling a bit silly yet feeling faithful and secure at the same time)… “you may come this far and no further” we said and prayed for awhile. (Reference: Job 38:8-11)
Then a few days later I was praying for confirmation to write a message to send out to people about praying against the prophecies… As soon as I asked for for confirmation, the Lord reminded me of a passage of scripture He has spoken to us throughout the last two years of our journey to NZ and the 18 months of living here. Jeremiah 29: 4-9. He has used this to parallel what my husband and I are going through as He called us here. Paraphrase: Settle, build a family, seek the peace of the city, pray for it, do not trust prophets/diviners who were not sent by God. He reminded me of the last part in particular. We really feel we must not embrace this negative word as something from the Lord but consider it as something from the enemy that we can intercede against.
So the last month we have been praying and asking God to prevent further earthquakes, tsunamis, or any other form of destruction.
As we try to discern the language and theology used throughout the “prophecies” we have been weighing what we know to be true of God and His plans for this city. We are praying tomorrow passes by beautifully with no drama whatsoever! Please join us in that prayer!